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tnc

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Lets have a discussion about Internet Explorer...

Problem 1 (IE versions)

We all know GE is very specific with respect to Internet Explorer versions. Lately we have had increases in help desk calls for printing issues, pdf issues, and CPS issues which we look at and find that IE10 or IE11 was updated over IE9. A system restore usually fixes the problem but somehow IE is being updated. I do run the IE10block, and IE11block scripts but that will only block IE from automatic updates from Windows Update if the IE versions come down as a critical update (which MS does when they decide to do it). If a user does an update on their own, any blocks are overridden, and I don't think the users even are prohibited from running Windows update even if they do not have admin rights.

We are using WSUS, by the way, IE 10/11 is not approved as an update. Running Windows update from a workstation goes to windowsupdate.microsoft.com, not my local WSUS server. It would be cool if it did, then I could really control the situation

Problem 2 (Chrome, Firefox)

Unfortunately, despite my best efforts to fight this, I am being coerced to use Google Chrome on some workstations and even a server now as of yesterday. Anyway, by adding a second browser to any workstation which requires IE to be the default for when you click on the CPS icon there is a chance that somehow that default browser has changed. If you users are not smart enough they will bother the helpdesk with a call instead of clicking on the big "E" on the desktop and running IE which will ask to be the default browser, then they can say "YES" and CPS will work thereafter. I have looked around for a script that I can use to make IE the default browser during login but the ones I have located either don't work or may have worked for a previous version of IE or Windows.

Anyone have any VB or bat scripts they would like to share for this?

Mike Zavolas

Tallahassee Neurological Clinic

Posted : February 11, 2014 1:51 am

DavidShower

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I'm not a CPS guy so I don't know how the CPS icon gets pushed to the desktop but could you push a CPS application icon to the desktop with AD or some other process with iexplore.exe hard coded as the application to open the URL parameter?

Posted : February 11, 2014 4:20 am

joshua.tilson

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You certainly could. I don't like IE as my default browser so what I have done is added an shortcut to my desktop with this as the target:

"C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe" http://CPS-SERVER:9080/centricityps/cps/

I now do not have to worry about default browser, as CPS will always open in IE now. You can easily do this with GPO.

Posted : February 11, 2014 5:43 am

tnc

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Good deal, that seems to solve the problem. I had tried something similar to that in the past but had my syntax mixed up or something but Josh's worked.

Thanks guys

Posted : February 11, 2014 6:33 am

ErnieT

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Damn Joshua, you and I think alike. That is exactly what I did in my system. I don't like IE either.

Posted : February 12, 2014 1:01 am

joshua.tilson

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ErnieT said:

Damn Joshua, you and I think alike. That is exactly what I did in my system. I don't like IE either.

I hear you there, I only use it when I absolutely have to. Unfortunately CPS and a lot of our Microsoft stuff kind of requires the use of IE.

Posted : February 12, 2014 1:03 am

ErnieT

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Yeah and we have a pacs system from one of our hospitals that the only way to get into it is via IE. Sucks big time and have huge issues with it.

Posted : February 12, 2014 1:06 am

joshua.tilson

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Not sure if it would work, and not sure of the availability on chrome, but there used to be a plugin for Firefox called IE Tab which would render the tab using the IE rendering engine, that used to work for a lot of site that "required" IE, but i haven't use dit in some time.

Posted : February 12, 2014 1:08 am

ErnieT

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I have tried that one also and it does work but had a tendency to crash.

Posted : February 12, 2014 1:25 am

tnc

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ErnieT said:

Damn Joshua, you and I think alike. That is exactly what I did in my system. I don't like IE either.

I don't like IE or Windows any longer

I use OSX (2006 vintage hardware) and CentOS mainly, but have to use a VM or Parallels just for the MS specific things. I gave up on MS about 3 years ago after many years of almost being a fan-boy. These Windows 8 Metro and Server 2012 Metro disasters haven't done much to win me back.

If I could find an IE substitute on OSX or linux I would be set. If CPS ever goes truly 'thin' like they promised, they should do HTML5 then it wouldn't matter which OS you use. They should try to get away from IE. Does anyone know what specifically CPS 'needs' to use IE for? It does not appear to load any ActiveX controls so why does Firefox or Chrome not work?

Posted : February 13, 2014 1:16 am

joshua.tilson

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CPS 11 does load a couple of activeX controls, at least the first time we launch it for users, once they allow the control to run it never prompts again.

As for the Thin CPS, that would be great, as we have a lot of providers trying to use ipads with mixed results.

However I do have one word of caution on the current state of "Mobile Access" to CPS. We are on CPS 11.0 and we have disabled this entirely as it the mobile feature allows you to log into the charts with no password of any sort.

Posted : February 13, 2014 1:19 am

tnc

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joshua.tilson said:

CPS 11 does load a couple of activeX controls, at least the first time we launch it for users, once they allow the control to run it never prompts again.

As for the Thin CPS, that would be great, as we have a lot of providers trying to use ipads with mixed results.

However I do have one word of caution on the current state of "Mobile Access" to CPS. We are on CPS 11.0 and we have disabled this entirely as it the mobile feature allows you to log into the charts with no password of any sort.

Wow, that is huge. I had no idea that was an issue but we don't use that either. I wonder how they can certify CPS for HIPAA and MU with that problem.

I have noticed the install footprint has gotten a tad smaller with CPS 11 and they said that an eventual browser agnostic version of CPS is the goal was the reason for choosing jboss as the web server.

Posted : February 13, 2014 2:22 am

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