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Rebecca B.

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Hello.

Just out of curiousity is it possible to have two functions within a form that need the same OBS term?

Here is what I am trying to accomplish with the OBS term WEIGHT:

1) Use it to calculate % and BMI. (It's a pediatric form, so it has height, height %, weight, weight %, head circumference, head circumference %.)

2) Use it as a document variable to push the OBS to a letter template so that a Physical Form can print prior to the user signing the note.

Is there a way to set this up?

Thank you!

Rebecca B.

Posted : March 26, 2014 2:59 am

joeg1962

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Why one OBS?

BMI, 2788.00

BMI%ILE, 22346.00

both exist.

Posted : March 26, 2014 4:03 am

Rebecca B.

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Thank you for your response.

I have a pediatric form that I need weight, height, and head circumference documented to calculate percentiles. However, I also need all of the obs to push to the flow sheet prior to the signature of the document. Is this possible?

Rebecca B.

Posted : March 30, 2014 10:13 am

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{LASTOBSVALUE("HEIGHT")}

would be an example of a command to pick up the last OBS Value, including during the current chart update.

When you say that you have a form to print, do you actually mean a GE Letter or GE Handout, where you intend to embed these OBSVALUE calls?

Posted : March 30, 2014 10:27 pm

Rebecca B.

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Thank you for the help & prompt response. Greatly appreciated.

What I am trying to accomplish is that the weight/height/head circumference can be used to calculate percentiles for our peds patients during an update. (I do have that function working.) However, I have a doctor that doesn't sign his notes on time due to high volume. Upon completion of the child's well visit, they need a printed form with their weight & height included in it. (from that day's visit). So, whether it prints to a letter or handout or history is fine. I just need it to print. Otherwise, the patient has to wait days until the provider signs the note. And by that time, sometimes the patient has come back for another visit. (illness). Whatever process you can come up with works for me.

Thanks!!!!

Rebecca B.

Posted : March 30, 2014 10:33 pm

joeg1962

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Are you requesting help in writing the Letter or Handout?

Or if someone already has one built/defined?

Posted : March 30, 2014 11:51 pm

Rebecca B.

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No. I just need help writing the VFE form for the weight/height/head circumference values to push immediately to the flowsheet and to still work to calculate percentiles.

It seems that unless I am doing something the two functions don't play well together.

Rebecca B.

Posted : March 31, 2014 12:22 am

Rebecca B.

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Does anyone have a Peds Intake form that works for both of these functions?

Thanks.

Posted : April 1, 2014 3:06 am

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Rebecca B. said:

No. I just need help writing the VFE form for the weight/height/head circumference values to push immediately to the flowsheet and to still work to calculate percentiles.

It seems that unless I am doing something the two functions don't play well together.

Rebecca B.

To answer your first question, you can totally use weight in multiple functions. We use ours for BMI as well as % weight change for our dietitian. The output value is not going to immediately push to a flowsheet, what you see in the flowsheet is usually from the previous visit. The way to get it in a hand out is, as stated above, to us LASTOBSVALUE, this will print the current info if the note is opened, and the last info if the note is signed. That's how all of my handouts are built.

Posted : April 2, 2014 2:08 am

Rebecca B.

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Thank you for your help. Any chance you could share your Intake form that operates this way? I can't get mine to operate correctly. Handouts works to display height, but won't bring in the weight. Could it be because there are so many different values that play into the weight %, weight, weight oz, etc.?

Rebecca B.

Posted : April 2, 2014 2:59 am

Rebecca B.

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I stand corrected neither obsterm is making it to the handout. This provider is never going to be able to sign his notes to print the school physical form prior to child leaving to accomplish this.

Any workaround to get these two obsterms to print a document either letter or handout?

I'm at a loss. I can even go without the percentiles. I just need need the weight & height captured in the current update to print.

Any suggestions?

Sorry, maybe I'm making it harder than it is!

Rebecca B.

Posted : April 2, 2014 5:21 am

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Rebecca B. said:

I stand corrected neither obsterm is making it to the handout. This provider is never going to be able to sign his notes to print the school physical form prior to child leaving to accomplish this.

Any workaround to get these two obsterms to print a document either letter or handout?

I'm at a loss. I can even go without the percentiles. I just need need the weight & height captured in the current update to print.

Any suggestions?

Sorry, maybe I'm making it harder than it is!

Rebecca B.

You probably are 🙂

Post your handout code, that will help.

Posted : April 2, 2014 5:22 am

joeg1962

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I think that you would need to open the office visit with the unsigned OBS terms, and generate the letter with it open. Then use the LASTOBSVALUE, as this includes observations made during the current chart update.

Posted : April 2, 2014 5:24 am

Rebecca B.

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Wow, that worked. I feel like a dope. Thanks! Embarassed

Posted : April 2, 2014 5:28 am

Rebecca B.

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Don't know why it won't work putting the note on hold and doing it....only while actually "in" the update. Thanks again!!!

Posted : April 2, 2014 5:29 am

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